Friday, May 8, 2020

Proving from the Bible that Protestantism isn't true.


Now, I do not want to be accused of Protestant bashing, so Protestants should take note that I have a healthy respect for scripture and admire them for their love on scripture.  So, here we go.
Sola Scriptura, this one is the easiest to disprove, as it is not taught anywhere in the Bible.  Seriously, some folks like to quotes this:
            (From the Douay Rheims, as that’s the version I have on hand) “All scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct in justice,
            That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work.  (2 Timothy 3:16-17).  But, with everything, let’s read it in context:
            “But thou hast fully known my doctrine, manner of life, purpose, faith, long-suffering, love, patience,
Persecutions, afflictions: Such as came upon me at Antioch, at Iconium, and at Lystra: what persecutions I endured, and out of them all the Lord delivered me
And all that will live godly in Christ Jesus, shall suffer persecution.
But evil men and seducers shall grow worse: erring and driving into error.
But continue thou in those things which thou hast learned, and which have been   committed to thee: knowing of whom thou hast learned them;
And because from thy infancy thou hast known the holy scriptures, which can instruct thee to salvation, by the faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All Scripture, inspired of God, is profitable to teach, to reprove, to correct in justice,
That the man of God may be perfect, furnished to every good work. (2 Timothy 2:10-17).
            Useful and true, but it does not teach Sola Scriptura.  In fact, it isn’t even implied in the text.  That’s not to say The Bible isn’t important, it is, it is THE most important book of all times (actually, books, but still).   I feel like this is a really common thing amongst Protestants, they see a verse in the Bible and say “see, that proves it, because they use the Bible”.  It’s almost like they think Catholics don’t really the Bible.
            Also, if he knew it “from infancy”, or “childhood” as some newer versions of The Bible say, and it really did teach Sola Scriptura, then Protestants would have a logical problem, as it would have to be the Old Testament.  Seriously, the New Testament was still being writing.  The Bible is important and useful for instruction, but does not teach that it alone is authoritative.   
            Sola Scriptura is impossible anyway, because a Protestant cannot safely answer which books are in scripture.  Why is it those 66 books and only those 66 books?  Can they point to a verse in scripture that says it is those 66 books?  No, because there isn’t one. 
Faith alone is another one that is certainly unbiblical, so, instead of using the common argument from James (James 2:14-26), I am going to use Paul himself.  After all, if Paul so clearly taught salvation by “faith alone”, we should be able to find it in the Bible.  So, let’s start with the verse Martin Luther added the word “alone” to, remember, all quotes are from the Douay Rheims:
“For we account a man to be justified by faith, without the works of the law”.(Romans 3:28)  Notice something?  Nowhere in there does it say “alone”.  In fact, read it IN CONTEXT.  In fact, the entire chapter is about gentiles and Jews in the context of Old Testament law and how it applies to Christians.  Seriously y’all, go read it. 
What is really interesting to me, is Romans 6:1-4:
“What shall we say then?  Shall we continue in sin, that grace may about?
God forbid.  For we that are dead to sin, how shall we live any longer therein?
Know you not that all we, who are baptized in Christ Jesus, are baptized in his death?
For we are buried together with him by baptism into death; that as Christ is risen from the dead by the glory of the Father, so we also may walk in newness of life”.
Sounds like to me there is some kind of law we’re supposed to follow.  Sounds to me a lot different than being saved by “faith alone”.  Our baptism seems to imply that following Jesus means to actually do something.  I’ll give you another.
Ephesians 2:8-9
“For by grace you are saved through faith, and that not of yourselves, for it is the gift of God;
Not of works, that no man may glory”
Now, that sounds fine and dandy.  We’re saved by faith, so works have no role, right?  Wrong.  In fact, it always amazes me that people don’t seem to know there is an Ephesians 2:10.
“For we are his workmanship, created in Christ Jesus in good works, which God hath prepared that we should walk in them”.
You and I are quite literally made for good works.  How then can we say that faith alone is what justifies us?  There is no way we can earn our salvation, we can do good works, through grace, in faith.  Faith and works go together like hand-in-glove, Paul even talks about the obedience of faith in Romans 1:5.
Okay, so now we turn to Sola gratia.   (See Council of Orange, 529)
Actually, Catholics believe this, so no problem there.
Christ alone, okay, only Christ can save us, but this does not eliminate the need for an ordained priesthood.  In fact, for a proper celebration of the Eucharist, we would need one.  Remember, Jesus uses sacrificial language at the last supper, Matthew 26:27-28:
“And taking the chalice, he gave thanks, and gave to them, saying: ‘Drink ye all of this.
For this is my blood of the new testament, which shall be shed for many unto the remission of sins. 
And, if you remember your Old Testament, you will know that blood is shed in the Old Testament offerings.  St. Matthew would not have rendered this with sacrificial language if it was not supposed to be a sacrifice.  And not only that, it is supposed to be a perpetual sacrifice, if Malachi 1:11 is anything to go by, and this is what Jesus intended, going by Luke 22:19
“And taking the bread, he gave thanks, and brake: and gave to them, saying: This is my body, which is given for you. Do this for a commemoration of me”.
Now, don’t be put off by the language.  Some modern Bibles do indeed say “memorial” or “in remembrance”.  That isn’t the point.  Jesus used sacrificial language, and told us to do it.  Since he used sacrificial language, we can surmise it is a sacrifice.  Now, what class of people offers sacrifices?  Priests. 
So, we can infer from that, the Luther’s idea that the Eucharist must be a sacrament or a sacrifice and can’t be both, is absurd.
Now, with Soli Deo Gloria, most of what I can find is just insults towards Catholics for venerating Saints.  I guess Protestants are unaware that Martin Luther held the Virgin Mary in high regard (Personal Prayer Book, 1522), although he had a problem with intercession of the Saints, Augsburg Confession of 1530 (Article 21).
But, I can prove from the Bible, that intercessory prayers of Saints in Heaven and angels are quite biblical.
First of all, angels are probably the easiest.  Angels watch over children.  Jesus says this:
“See not that you despise not one of these little ones: for I say to you, that their angels in heaven always see the face of my father who is in heaven”. (Matthew 18:10)
Seriously, if you know what the angels are doing before the throne of God, you would be asking for their intercession.  Seriously, the Bible says this
“And I saw seven angels standing in the presence of God; and there were given to them seven trumpets
And another angel came and stood before the altar, having a golden censer; and there was given to him much incense, that he should offer of the prayers of all the saints upon the golden altar, which is before the throne of God.
And the smoke of the incense of the prayers of the saints ascended up before God from the hand of the angel”. (Revelation 8:2-4)
Catch that?  It’s the angels that bring Christian prayers to the throne of God.  Sounds like an intercessor to me.  So, what about people in Heaven?  Aren’t they dead?  How could they possibly hear all those prayers?  Okay, one, bad argument, that’s not what we’re saying, two, so what if they don’t know what we’re saying?  It’s ultimately God that grants the prayer. 
If I say to my friend “hey, please pray for me”, do I really need to be specific on WHAT I need prayer for?  I think those in Heaven may possibly be the same.  I should probably point out that there ARE humans in Heaven that are worshiping the Lamb, seriously, read Revelation 5, but especially Revelation 5:8
“And when he had opened the book, the four living creatures, and the four and twenty ancients fell down before the Lamb, having every one of them harps, and golden vials full of odours, which are the prayers of the saints.”
Now, there is much more (seriously, read the Book of Revelation), but I just wanted to get to the point.

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